2006 tour - Sirius Recording - Who's recording?

DeltOU · Post by **DeltOU** » April 15, 2006 3:09 pm

I can only assume that the sirius broadcast sounds better than the radiomargaritaville.com broadcast.

For those recording shows this year, are you recording through the sirius.com feed, or are there better ways to record it directly through the sirius receiver?

I'll be going to the 4/20 show in Irvine, so if any of you folks are planning to record this show, please PM me, as I'd love to get a nice quality recording of it.

Phins up...

dchspoptart · Post by **dchspoptart** » April 17, 2006 4:44 pm

If I had the right equipment... it wouldn't be too hard to record it while you're at the concert. Connect your sirius tuner to a laptop (Sirius tuner -> Line In cable -> Laptop), and run it off of a second battery... prolly wouldn't run down your battery (laptop or vehicle) until an hr or so after the show.

Anyone tried this yet?

tjtryon · Post by **tjtryon** » April 17, 2006 6:41 pm

I've been looking at this the last couple of weeks, and it looks like there is a software package that will do it for you called ReplayRadio http://www.applian.com/replay-radio/index.php

I don't know anything about it myself, and was hoping on getting some feedback before I spring for $40 for the software.

Anyone use this, or another software for recording online Sirius (or other online) radio?

dchspoptart · Post by **dchspoptart** » April 17, 2006 10:42 pm

tjtryon wrote:I've been looking at this the last couple of weeks, and it looks like there is a software package that will do it for you called ReplayRadio http://www.applian.com/replay-radio/index.php

I don't know anything about it myself, and was hoping on getting some feedback before I spring for $40 for the software.

Anyone use this, or another software for recording online Sirius (or other online) radio?

I'd rather just use Adobe Audition (formerly Cool Edit Pro) or Audacity to record if I'm using Line in. I use a Winamp plugin (Free) called Streamripper for Winamp if I am recording from the online radio margaritaville stream.

eickhorst_reid · Post by **eickhorst_reid** » April 18, 2006 12:21 am

I'm pretty sure BN user Pablo Escobar will be recording the radio feed. Woohoo!

SharkOnLand · Post by **SharkOnLand** » April 18, 2006 4:08 pm

dchspoptart wrote:
tjtryon wrote:I've been looking at this the last couple of weeks, and it looks like there is a software package that will do it for you called ReplayRadio http://www.applian.com/replay-radio/index.php

I don't know anything about it myself, and was hoping on getting some feedback before I spring for $40 for the software.

Anyone use this, or another software for recording online Sirius (or other online) radio?
I'd rather just use Adobe Audition (formerly Cool Edit Pro) or Audacity to record if I'm using Line in. I use a Winamp plugin (Free) called Streamripper for Winamp if I am recording from the online radio margaritaville stream.

I'm attempting my first foray into recording these live... bought a home kit for my sirius receiver, and will record from the line in (or mic in) jack on my computer...

Is Audacity user-friendly? Some of those open-source programs are difficult to use and hard to understand... I'm a complete rookie at this so I'd like my first try to be as easy as possible...

Zuke · Post by **Zuke** » April 18, 2006 4:19 pm

I have the Sirius S50 which records right to the unit, but does anybody know if there is a way to get that to cd? There's like 60 hours of space on the S50, but I've never tried to make a cd yet.

RinglingRingling · Post by **RinglingRingling** » April 18, 2006 4:27 pm

Zuke wrote:I have the Sirius S50 which records right to the unit, but does anybody know if there is a way to get that to cd? There's like 60 hours of space on the S50, but I've never tried to make a cd yet.

it has a USB connector right? If you use that, there should be a way for your computer to recognize it as a drive. Copy the file from the S50 to your computer; edit as needed; burn to CD

Pablo Escobar · Post by **Pablo Escobar** » April 19, 2006 10:15 am

I tape all my shows to my Samsung recorder and upload them to cool edit pro to edit and slice them, then burn straight to cd.

Total recorder sucks, so if you are trying to tape the show, I recommend getting a mp3 player with a line in and use your sirius' line out and record striaght to the mp3 player, and it is easily uploadable through usb. I'm listening to last nights show albeit it sounds like crap

moog · Post by **moog** » April 19, 2006 3:56 pm

Don't know why you think TR "sucks", I guess it would be helpfull to back that statement with the why does it s***.
Last night's show was bad due to technical problems on RM's end.

Jason Mason · Post by **Jason Mason** » April 19, 2006 4:14 pm

moog wrote:Don't know why you think TR "sucks", I guess it would be helpfull to back that statement with the why does it s***.
Last night's show was bad due to technical problems on RM's end.

Indeed, Miles even came on between PATEOTW and Pirate to say that... I personally love Total Recorder, it does exactly what I need it to do; it can even be set to record automatically at a specific time. What more could you ask for?

SharkOnLand · Post by **SharkOnLand** » April 19, 2006 4:45 pm

So... I tried it out last night... a trial run, had problems with my Sirius home antenna, so it cut out on me a couple times (lucky for me they'll be replaying the concert, hopefully). I used Audacity to record the line-in.

I have some questions. What would be the best settings to record at? Is 44kHz/24-bit ok? What's 'standard' in that regard? I do know that CD-quality is 16-bit...

I think last night I recorded at 96kHz/32-bit floating, ended up with a HUGE file, so I was hoping to maybe get some tips/pointers?

Pablo Escobar · Post by **Pablo Escobar** » April 19, 2006 6:35 pm

Jason Mason wrote:
moog wrote:Don't know why you think TR "sucks", I guess it would be helpfull to back that statement with the why does it s***.
Last night's show was bad due to technical problems on RM's end.
Indeed, Miles even came on between PATEOTW and Pirate to say that... I personally love Total Recorder, it does exactly what I need it to do; it can even be set to record automatically at a specific time. What more could you ask for?

I wasn't even commenting on the quality. My post was about how TR sucks. What I meant is TR as a editing tool sucks. I work in sports radio, and I edit/cut/paste interviews upon interviews and its an arcaic way to edit music (via .rar, .wav and/or .mp3)

I also know that last night shows was bad due to the techincally difficulty..so that's not my problem

and if you want to continue being a novice recorder of Sirius broadcasts, that's fine with me...but once you're ready to really tape with professional gear..just let me know.

Pablo Escobar · Post by **Pablo Escobar** » April 19, 2006 6:40 pm

SharkOnLand wrote:So... I tried it out last night... a trial run, had problems with my Sirius home antenna, so it cut out on me a couple times (lucky for me they'll be replaying the concert, hopefully). I used Audacity to record the line-in.

I have some questions. What would be the best settings to record at? Is 44kHz/24-bit ok? What's 'standard' in that regard? I do know that CD-quality is 16-bit...

I think last night I recorded at 96kHz/32-bit floating, ended up with a HUGE file, so I was hoping to maybe get some tips/pointers?

Always put your antenna on a high place thats level and not under trees.

What line in recorder are you using?

44khz is the best to tape are due to sampling rates (160 range), and 24bit is the best version to tape at right now. (I'm on 16 bit, thus my 44/160/16 lineage)

Standard cd quality is 16 bit but for live shows anything higher than 8 bit is fine. Us anal tapers prefer 24bit, but if we can get 16 bit we can take what we can get. I recorded last nights show at 44/160 at 16 bit. As you can see I could get a 24 bit recorder, but theres really no noticeable difference b/c in any editing tool (cool editing/ adobe audtion you can change from 16 > 24 bit)

and all I recommend is cool edit pro/ adobe audition to cut/edit whatever, if you can't afford the $500 software, you can always go to etree.org and get cdwave to cut the .wav files...and its for free...anymore question PM me, or email me

moog · Post by **moog** » April 19, 2006 7:36 pm

Pablo Escobar wrote: I wasn't even commenting on the quality. My post was about how TR sucks. What I meant is TR as a editing tool sucks. I work in sports radio, and I edit/cut/paste interviews upon interviews and its an arcaic way to edit music (via .rar, .wav and/or .mp3)

There you go, now you explained it. I think.

I also know that last night shows was bad due to the techincally difficulty..so that's not my problem

Then perhaps a new paragraph to seperate the thought would have clarified to me that the RM feed was poor not TR's fault.

and if you want to continue being a novice recorder of Sirius broadcasts, that's fine with me...but once you're ready to really tape with professional gear..just let me know.

Novice? Recording thru a soundcard at 44:16 is good enough for a slightly above FM quality feed and simply splitting it via CD wave is good enough for this. What's there to edit? Split the file and make a CD. If I have to do tweaking I'll use Audition.

You made a claim that TR sucks and I called you on it. You didn't explain in your orginal post. No reason to get defensive.

PS. You are recording off a compressed sat feed, what's professional? And when you say tape, do you mean DAT? Analog?

Pablo Escobar · Post by **Pablo Escobar** » April 19, 2006 8:18 pm

moog wrote:
Pablo Escobar wrote: I wasn't even commenting on the quality. My post was about how TR sucks. What I meant is TR as a editing tool sucks. I work in sports radio, and I edit/cut/paste interviews upon interviews and its an arcaic way to edit music (via .rar, .wav and/or .mp3)

There you go, now you explained it. I think.

I also know that last night shows was bad due to the techincally difficulty..so that's not my problem

Then perhaps a new paragraph to seperate the thought would have clarified to me that the RM feed was poor not TR's fault.

and if you want to continue being a novice recorder of Sirius broadcasts, that's fine with me...but once you're ready to really tape with professional gear..just let me know.
Novice? Recording thru a soundcard at 44:16 is good enough for a slightly above FM quality feed and simply splitting it via CD wave is good enough for this. What's there to edit? Split the file and make a CD. If I have to do tweaking I'll use Audition.

You made a claim that TR sucks and I called you on it. You didn't explain in your orginal post. No reason to get defensive.

PS. You are recording off a compressed sat feed, what's professional? And when you say tape, do you mean DAT? Analog?

Why go through the hassle of recording through a sound card? TR sucks, b/c it is for novices..and I am not getting defensive, you just have to know what you're talkign about...and it seems you do.

I do tape digital, analong, MD, dat and anything else...

well for the Irivine shows we'll just post our tapes and see which one is better

moog · Post by **moog** » April 19, 2006 9:06 pm

Okay. To each his own methods. I have a Starmate plugged into thru a soundblaster card from 2000. I leave the unit next to the PC. I never take it on the road with me. I have a three minute commute to work.

Of course garbage in, garbage out. I do believe to record in the best quality for a master for any future formats.

I could use my video production workstation for the concerts, but I'm not going to use the business PC for home stuff.

I think 44:24 from the Sirius feeds is overboard, because there is nothing there at that level from the source. However yea, if you go to hard drive with a crappy tuner and soundcard, the audio will be so so.

Pablo Escobar · Post by **Pablo Escobar** » April 19, 2006 9:28 pm

moog wrote:Okay. To each his own methods. I have a Starmate plugged into thru a soundblaster card from 2000. I leave the unit next to the PC. I never take it on the road with me. I have a three minute commute to work.

Of course garbage in, garbage out. I do believe to record in the best quality for a master for any future formats.

I could use my video production workstation for the concerts, but I'm not going to use the business PC for home stuff. I think 44:24 from the Sirius feeds is overboard, because there is nothing there at that level from the source. However yea, if you go to hard drive with a crappy tuner and soundcard, the audio will be so so.

I totally agree you...44:24 is fine, but 16 bit works better for me...just b/c i don't want to waste the normalizing my file when it could be done automatically....

Pablo Escobar · Post by **Pablo Escobar** » April 20, 2006 5:42 pm

here's to taping a better show tonight!

Captain Kid · Post by **Captain Kid** » April 20, 2006 9:02 pm

Does anyone know where I can get a copy of "Some white people can dance" by Fingers?

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