VH1 CLASSIC SPECIAL JIMMY BUFFETT LIVE BY THE BAY

[hoover]

Can anyone help me out on this. I am looking for a copy of the concert that aired on VH1 Classic on 6/3. Can anyone out there help start a vine on this? If anyone can help out please IM me. Thanks

[hawaiiboy]

You can purchase a VHS copy here
http://www.amazon.com/Live-Bay-Jimmy-Bu ... 768&sr=8-2

Trading commercially available material is not a good thing to do

[SharkOnLand]

"Commercially available" is a bit of a stretch. Yes, it was commercially available at some point, but try finding it new at a retailer. You likely won't. It's not even available at Margaritaville. Most of the copies on Amazon are probably resale copies.

Granted it is still copyrighted. But you likely aren't taking money from the original holder (JB) by copying/sharing it, as it isn't being produced anymore.

[hawaiiboy]

"Commercially available" is a bit of a stretch. Yes, it was commercially available at some point, but try finding it new at a retailer. You likely won't. It's not even available at Margaritaville. Most of the copies on Amazon are probably resale copies.

Granted it is still copyrighted. But you likely aren't taking money from the original holder (JB) by copying/sharing it, as it isn't being produced anymore.

Is/was commercially available-it is still copyright infringement. Just because Jimmy has not made
it available on DVD yet does not mean that you can freely
distribute it as you see fit.

[LIPH]

From the U.S. Copyright Office's website:

How long does a copyright last?
The term of copyright for a particular work depends on several factors, including whether it has been published, and, if so, the date of first publication. As a general rule, for works created after January 1, 1978, copyright protection lasts for the life of the author plus an additional 70 years. For an anonymous work, a pseudonymous work, or a work made for hire, the copyright endures for a term of 95 years from the year of its first publication or a term of 120 years from the year of its creation, whichever expires first. For works first published prior to 1978, the term will vary depending on several factors. To determine the length of copyright protection for a particular work, consult chapter 3 of the Copyright Act (title 17 of the United States Code). More information on the term of copyright can be found in Circular 15a, Duration of Copyright, and Circular 1, Copyright Basics.

[SharkOnLand]

"Commercially available" is a bit of a stretch. Yes, it was commercially available at some point, but try finding it new at a retailer. You likely won't. It's not even available at Margaritaville. Most of the copies on Amazon are probably resale copies.

Granted it is still copyrighted. But you likely aren't taking money from the original holder (JB) by copying/sharing it, as it isn't being produced anymore.

Is/was commercially available-it is still copyright infringement. Just because Jimmy has not made
it available on DVD yet does not mean that you can freely
distribute it as you see fit.

We distribute his concerts without remorse. Legally, they're copyrighted.

I'm not saying it's right to "distribute it as you see fit", I was just pointing out that you can't buy the VHS at retail anymore, any copies you find will likely be resales, so Jimmy's made all he is going to make on the VHS product.

And you can legally make copies of stuff you watch on TV for later use... so (in my understanding) if somebody watched it on TV, they could legitimately have a copy and give to others who watched it. Of course, I'm no attorney, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express once.

[hawaiiboy]

"Commercially available" is a bit of a stretch. Yes, it was commercially available at some point, but try finding it new at a retailer. You likely won't. It's not even available at Margaritaville. Most of the copies on Amazon are probably resale copies.

Granted it is still copyrighted. But you likely aren't taking money from the original holder (JB) by copying/sharing it, as it isn't being produced anymore.

Is/was commercially available-it is still copyright infringement. Just because Jimmy has not made
it available on DVD yet does not mean that you can freely
distribute it as you see fit.

We distribute his concerts without remorse. Legally, they're copyrighted.

I'm not saying it's right to "distribute it as you see fit", I was just pointing out that you can't buy the VHS at retail anymore, any copies you find will likely be resales, so Jimmy's made all he is going to make on the VHS product.

And you can legally make copies of stuff you watch on TV for later use... so (in my understanding) if somebody watched it on TV, they could legitimately have a copy and give to others who watched it. Of course, I'm no attorney, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express once.

Just because you can record and make a copy of
something you watch on tv it doesn't mean that you can make
copies and distribute them to other people. I am sure that the networks that show the programs would say that you are cutting into thier DVD
profits.

Yes we do distribute and trade Jimmy's shows, but we are allowed
to do it for the same reason that we get to hear the shows on RM. Because Jimmy is nice enough to allow it. If he did not like it I
am sure that BN would have heard from his legal people.
Like some other musicians Jimmy doesn't seem to have a problem with the trading of his live shows.

While the Live By The Bay may not be readily available
to purchase it is still a commercially released work. He
might not have released it on DVD yet because maybe the
rights are still owned by MCA.

[prrthd1987]

(it's only $3.75 on Amazon in pretty good condition. that might be the safe route.)

[ConchRepublican]

I bought my copy off (Amazon) mistake - I think it was eBay - last year. The cardboard holder is beat up, but it plays OK.

Take the chance, it's always better to have an original rather than a duplicate anyway.