DOWNLOADING CONCERTS - PLEASE READ
Posted: July 15, 2004 1:47 am
Hi, everyone:
With the help of Grags (and offers from others), I have now learned how to upload concerts to a server. We are planning to have multiple concerts available for members to download.
Each song/track will be an MP3 file labeled with the concert name, date, Part One or Two, title of track, and the order of where it goes on that Part. If you include all of the tracks from each part, you can be assured that each Part will fit on a CD. Each concert will take two CD's. BTW, blank CD's are now down around 10 to 20 cents each if bought in 50 or 100 CD spindles. I am talking about name brands like TDK or Memorex through Circuit City or Best Buy when they are running sales.
You can pick through the recordings and use what you want. I like to delete the DJ talk, songs that were played on RM at intermission but not heard at the concert, and extra long periods of "crowd noise" between the encores. I like to include the band introductions, School Boy Heart (usually played at the concert during intermission), and the songs they have been playing when the License To Chill concerts are starting. These include "Hot, Hot, Hot" and either "Jump In The Line" or "Day-O", Harry Belafonte songs for those who are unfamiliar. However, if you don't care for them, you will be able to just exclude them from your recording. I think this way of relaying concerts will be much more flexible (and faster) than recording CD's and mailing them.
It will also allow me to offer a recording of the interview that Jimmy usually does in the half hour before a show if anyone is interested. You probably wouldn't want to put it on a CD. It's usually long enough that it can't be included on one of the two concert CD's.
It will also allow you to "plug" a good copy of a song from another concert to replace a song that had a big "gap" in it. A good example of this is the 2004 Indy concerts. I have a good copy of the 7-8-04 concert, but my copy of Pencil Thin Mustache from the 7-6-04 concert had a big gap in it. I edited out this gap, but it left a partial recording of Pencil Thin Mustache that is unsatisfactory to me. So, you could plug the 7-8-04 version into the 7-6-04 concert and get a much better recording IMHO and most people will never notice it. At any rate, the choice will be yours, not mine. Be sure that no reference to another venue is made or it will sound really strange!
Grags will provide easy, detailed instructions on how to download these concerts from his FTP site. It is easy to do.
Due to a large number of requests for it, I have edited and uploaded the East Troy, WI Alpine Valley 7-10-04 concert to him and he will make it available for downloading shortly. With the exception of a few momentary "blips", it is a good recording, IMHO. Look for an announcement in this forum from him when it is available.
I also plan to upload the following concerts to his FTP site as soon as possible:
Minneapolis, MN Target Center 5-20-04
Camden, NJ Tweeter Center 6-29-04
Cuyahoga Falls, OH Blossom Music Center 7-1-04
Bristow, VA Nissan Pavilion 7-3-04
Indianapolis, IN Verizon Wireless Center 7-6-04
Indianapolis, IN Verizon Wireless Center 7-8-04
I also have several RM Replays that I can make available if there is enough interest. I am trying to cut down on the mailing of concerts to individuals, as it is time consuming and I would rather spend my time editing concerts and making them available for downloading by all.
I encourage other members who have these concerts to download and compare them with mine and others. I have found that we all get different variations of concerts depending on what route the transmission takes through the Internet. I might have a good recording except for one song, while someone else might have a good copy of that song, but possibly not of others from that concert. I know from feedback that other members have had this problem. Together we can make better copies available to everyone, which is the whole intent of this forum, right?
I recommend marking songs/tracks that are definitely "defective" with a capital "X" to indicate that it could be improved upon. I am only talking about major problems, not momentary blips. I welcome feedback from others on this topic.
This problem was very apparent with the Denver concert, which I attended and recorded, but much of it was blank. I didn't get any of 5 songs and only parts of 4 others. Another member got a much better copy and made it available for downloading and now I have almost all of the concert. However, we both didn't get but about half of "Cheeseburger In Paradise", so I am trying to collect other recordings and put together a complete Denver concert. If I do, I will post that one. Can anyone else help?
Finally, if anyone who has requested copies of these concerts from me can download them instead of having me mail them a copy, please let me know. It would save me a lot of time.
Thanks,
RMM
With the help of Grags (and offers from others), I have now learned how to upload concerts to a server. We are planning to have multiple concerts available for members to download.
Each song/track will be an MP3 file labeled with the concert name, date, Part One or Two, title of track, and the order of where it goes on that Part. If you include all of the tracks from each part, you can be assured that each Part will fit on a CD. Each concert will take two CD's. BTW, blank CD's are now down around 10 to 20 cents each if bought in 50 or 100 CD spindles. I am talking about name brands like TDK or Memorex through Circuit City or Best Buy when they are running sales.
You can pick through the recordings and use what you want. I like to delete the DJ talk, songs that were played on RM at intermission but not heard at the concert, and extra long periods of "crowd noise" between the encores. I like to include the band introductions, School Boy Heart (usually played at the concert during intermission), and the songs they have been playing when the License To Chill concerts are starting. These include "Hot, Hot, Hot" and either "Jump In The Line" or "Day-O", Harry Belafonte songs for those who are unfamiliar. However, if you don't care for them, you will be able to just exclude them from your recording. I think this way of relaying concerts will be much more flexible (and faster) than recording CD's and mailing them.
It will also allow me to offer a recording of the interview that Jimmy usually does in the half hour before a show if anyone is interested. You probably wouldn't want to put it on a CD. It's usually long enough that it can't be included on one of the two concert CD's.
It will also allow you to "plug" a good copy of a song from another concert to replace a song that had a big "gap" in it. A good example of this is the 2004 Indy concerts. I have a good copy of the 7-8-04 concert, but my copy of Pencil Thin Mustache from the 7-6-04 concert had a big gap in it. I edited out this gap, but it left a partial recording of Pencil Thin Mustache that is unsatisfactory to me. So, you could plug the 7-8-04 version into the 7-6-04 concert and get a much better recording IMHO and most people will never notice it. At any rate, the choice will be yours, not mine. Be sure that no reference to another venue is made or it will sound really strange!
Grags will provide easy, detailed instructions on how to download these concerts from his FTP site. It is easy to do.
Due to a large number of requests for it, I have edited and uploaded the East Troy, WI Alpine Valley 7-10-04 concert to him and he will make it available for downloading shortly. With the exception of a few momentary "blips", it is a good recording, IMHO. Look for an announcement in this forum from him when it is available.
I also plan to upload the following concerts to his FTP site as soon as possible:
Minneapolis, MN Target Center 5-20-04
Camden, NJ Tweeter Center 6-29-04
Cuyahoga Falls, OH Blossom Music Center 7-1-04
Bristow, VA Nissan Pavilion 7-3-04
Indianapolis, IN Verizon Wireless Center 7-6-04
Indianapolis, IN Verizon Wireless Center 7-8-04
I also have several RM Replays that I can make available if there is enough interest. I am trying to cut down on the mailing of concerts to individuals, as it is time consuming and I would rather spend my time editing concerts and making them available for downloading by all.
I encourage other members who have these concerts to download and compare them with mine and others. I have found that we all get different variations of concerts depending on what route the transmission takes through the Internet. I might have a good recording except for one song, while someone else might have a good copy of that song, but possibly not of others from that concert. I know from feedback that other members have had this problem. Together we can make better copies available to everyone, which is the whole intent of this forum, right?
I recommend marking songs/tracks that are definitely "defective" with a capital "X" to indicate that it could be improved upon. I am only talking about major problems, not momentary blips. I welcome feedback from others on this topic.
This problem was very apparent with the Denver concert, which I attended and recorded, but much of it was blank. I didn't get any of 5 songs and only parts of 4 others. Another member got a much better copy and made it available for downloading and now I have almost all of the concert. However, we both didn't get but about half of "Cheeseburger In Paradise", so I am trying to collect other recordings and put together a complete Denver concert. If I do, I will post that one. Can anyone else help?
Finally, if anyone who has requested copies of these concerts from me can download them instead of having me mail them a copy, please let me know. It would save me a lot of time.
Thanks,
RMM
